the kelly moore plant in san carlos, california, turns out nearly 40,000 gallons a day. it's one of the largest employee-owned paint operations in the u.s. part of a $13 billion industry domestically. 140 workers in the 15 acre san carlos facility, 1,500 world wide, including 150 retail outlets in seven states. >> we own currently 58% of the stock and the rest of the stock is owned by the moore family. >> mike: you like white? they got it. you like -- they got that, too. >> still seeing a lot of reds. that teal is slipping into it. teal and turquoise. green still kind of there still. yellows, yellow influence, neutrals are still there. but the teals and the reds and oranges. oranges are just really popular right now, too. >> i started off with. >> mike: steve devoe is chairman and c.e.o. of the 66-year-old company. he does not paint a pretty picture of what they and every other paint manufacturer has been through over the last couple years. what he does do is point out why kelly moore fared better than most. first, history. they have it. started in 1946 by bill kelly and